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Delta DJ30 12" jointer
I have a general question about a jointer that I just purchased. The problem I'm having is the owners manual tells me to set the out feed table .015 above the cutter head body and then to set the knives even with the outfeed table. I just recieved the new knives today and as I positioned them according to the owners manual the knive sticks out into the rabbit groove 5/16" and also the knife top leading edge is almost dead even with the top of the knife locking bar. The knives are not beveled on the end where the rabbit groove is as well. I'm hoping to find someone who has the jointer and can help me with some advise. Please feel free to email me at ziggy@panhandle.rr.com I would appreciate your assistance very much thank you Christopher Mitchell



Your knives should stick out (post #157886, reply #1 of 4)
Your knives should stick out so the short point of the bevel is approximately 1/16" above the gib. Didn't you get a knife setting gauge? Set a knife with the gauge, adjust the outfeed to be even and set all the knives even with the outfeed. After the knives are set, lower the outfeed table a cats whisker. Re check after a few cuts, adjust as necessary.
Don't start that dandy up if the knives are too long for the cutterhead! When you say the knives aren't beveled on the end, do you mean they are not sharpened all the way, end to end? Something doesn't sound right. Knives should be pretty close to the same length as the gibs. Can you post a picture?
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DJ30 Jointer Knives (post #157886, reply #2 of 4)
Thank you for responding to my question. What I mean about the knives are not beveled on the end is. The knives that came with the machine were beveled on the side where it cuts the rabbit. I was told that alot of people will do this to prevent tear out when cutting a rabbit," which I doubt that I will ever use it but I might" I didn't get a jig with this machine to set the knives the owners manual shows you how to make one out of scrap hardwood. yeah I thought that the knives should be the same length as the gib " locking Bars" as delta calls it,or atleast the same length as the cutter head itself The knives are 12 1/4" long x 1 3/16 wide x 1/8" thick. What confuses me the most is they are definitly Delta knives because delta is stamped on the knife itself and they only make one 12" jointer the single phase and the three phase are the same other than the electrical difference.The cutter head itself is 3/8" shorter than the knife why this is I dont know. Somebody who has this machine would certainly know I believe.See the next thing that confuses me is all the videos I saw on other machines say to have the top of the knife about 1/16" above the gib, but when I set the outfeed table per the instruction manual at .015 above the cutter head body and the put the knives in even with the top of the out feed table there is Only .015 above the gib. Which doesn't seem like its right. Here is the manual you can see what I mean It says nothing about the knife being longer than the cutter head . I'm wondering if because the specs say that it cuts a 3/4" wide rabbit and the rabbit groove itself is almost an inch wide 61/64 to be exact that the knife sticking out by 5/16 that its suppose to be that way. I dont know. I'm not sure if the people at delta will know either.The knives that came with the machine were shorter and beveled on the side for cutting rabbits. I believe that someone did that themselves at the factory then cut the knife to length. the problem is they tightned the gib screws so tight that they de-laminated the knives and stripped the gib screws. This machine is a factory re-cond. machine with a six month warranty. I just got it last week. Delta sent me the new parts with no question so this is where Im at. thanks again Christopher Mitchell
Christopher, I owned an RJ42 (post #157886, reply #3 of 4)
Christopher, I owned an RJ42 for many years. Models or brands of jointers don't make much difference, most straight knife jointers are basically the same. The cutterhead has bearings mounted in pillow blocks on each end. There isn't a lot of clearance between the end of the cutterhead and the block. You do not want knives in your jointer that may hit these blocks. Typically, the ends of the knives are not 90 degrees, they are angled back a few degrees, sometimes only on the outside edge where you would be doing rabbeting. If you want to rabbet and use the ledge as a guide, the ends of the knives are set even with the rabbet ledge. Normally, the fence is also used. Keeping against the fence controls the width of the rabbet but, if the knives are not even with the ledge, the cut won't pass on to the outfeed table. It's your depth that is limited to 3/4", you can cut a rabbet as wide as the jointer.
I think I originally wrote, the short point of the sharpened bevel should stick above the gib about 1/16". I should have said between even and 1/16" above the cutterhead, the gib goes on the back side of the long point of the knife, towards the infeed side, the short point of the knives face the outfeed side.The relationship between the top of the knives to the cutterhead is pretty close to 1/16", .0625". I don't know why the manual says .015", the knives would be so deep in the grooves that there wouldn't be enough gullet to evacuate the chips.
If you set jointer blades perfectly even with the outfeed table, after a cut or two, the tips will be worn so that the jointer won't be able to do it's job. You need to set the outfeed table just a small amout below the tips, .015" would be a bit too much in my opinion for precision work, about right for flat surfacing rough stock. Maybe this is what they meant. If your ends of the knives are even with the rabbet ledge and still long enough to hit the pillow block at the other end, you have the wrong length knives. The end can be ground down but this would be very unusual, in my experience.
Lots of folks turn the locking bar bolts the wrong way by mistake. They work opposite of normal even though the threads are normal. You tighten them clockwise to loosen the gibs, back them up to put pressure against the gib and hold the knives. The heads of the bolts do not hit the knives, the heads press against the groove in the cutterhead. De-laminated the knives? I think some portable planers have laminated knives but it would be something new for a DJ30. Who knows if someone tried to use something they shouldn't have and busted things up?
I would set the knives as I said before. Roll the head by hand to make sure there is no contact anywhere. It should only be a matter of fine tuning the outfeed table to have one very sweet jointer. I hope you have the quiet model, you could hear the RJ42 a block away. Make sure you tighten the infeed table lock before using. Pressure on the heavy infeed table can cause it to sudenly drop to full depth, otherwise. Use the handles on the fence when tipping so you don't get pinched. Good luck.
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DJ30 Jointer (post #157886, reply #4 of 4)
I couldn't agree with you more on everything you have said. why are these knives too long I dont know here are some pictures of both the old laminated ones that came with the machine and the new ones that Delta sent to me. Surely they wouldn't expect you to grind down new knives for a machine. Something isn't just right here. I cant find anyone who makes another straight knife cutter head for this machine. the only other option is the out feed table shrunk down a 1/4" by width. Ha ha. I also double checked the part number for the knives and they are correct as well. I wish I could find someone who has this machinw so that I could find out what the heck is going on. Thank you for your time. Christopher