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Biesemeyer Fence rail size (post #101149)

musashi on Thu, 10/25/2007 - 00:41
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Hello:


I posted a couple of days ago, about setting up a Jet table saw.  I think I have all of my questions figured out now (thanks, everybody), but I need one more detail:


I have the guide tube for the Biesemeyer fence, but not the rails.  I am going to fabricate them out of steel angle.  Could someone please take a ruler to his saw, and give me the dimensions of the rail in cross section?


Thanks,


Musashi


Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.
-Groucho Marx
Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -Groucho Marx
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(post #101149, reply #1 of 13)

by marking in reply to musashi [original] on Thu, 10/25/2007 - 02:13

The mounting angle iron on my Beis. fence is 3"x2" (3 is vert.) The top edge is quite close but not flush to the table's top so don't forget the cut-outs for the miter gauge slots.

I have the instructions and rail setting template from the installation of the fence on my craftsman TS . You are welcome to a copy and the template if you email me your address.

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(post #101149, reply #2 of 13)

by musashi in reply to Anonymous [original] on Thu, 10/25/2007 - 10:37

Thanks.  I sent you an e-mail via your profile here.


 


One question I forgot to ask:  What is the thickness of the steel that Biesemeyer uses?


 


Musashi


Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.
-Groucho Marx
Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -Groucho Marx
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(post #101149, reply #3 of 13)

by musashi in reply to Anonymous [original] on Sat, 10/27/2007 - 01:07

Mark:


I took your suggestion and I have been searching online for a Biesemeyer instruction manual, but have been unable to find one.  Does anybody have any ideas?


Also - I would still like to know the thickness of the steel angle they use.


 


Thanks,


Musashi


Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.
-Groucho Marx
Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -Groucho Marx
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(post #101149, reply #4 of 13)

by DougMeyer in reply to Anonymous [original] on Sat, 10/27/2007 - 01:25

Give or take it is either 3/16 or 1/4 inch thick on mine.


Doug

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(post #101149, reply #5 of 13)

by marking in reply to Anonymous [original] on Sat, 10/27/2007 - 01:35

Angle Iron is 1/4 inch.

I am sending instructions, template and (hopefully) relevant photos. I hope to make it to the post office Sat. morning.

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(post #101149, reply #6 of 13)

by musashi in reply to Anonymous [original] on Sat, 10/27/2007 - 01:48

I just located (after much searching) a pdf of the instructions on Delta's web site.  As for the template, I assume that since it is for a different saw, it would probably not help me. 


I definitely appreciate the help, but the instructions are probably the most important thing for me, and now I have them.  Relax over another cup of coffee on Saturday morning, and save yourself a trip to the post office!


You will all probably hear back from me in a couple of weeks as I attempt to fabricate and attach my fence rails. 


Thanks again,


Musashi


Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.
-Groucho Marx
Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -Groucho Marx
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(post #101149, reply #7 of 13)

by KiddervilleAcres in reply to Anonymous [original] on Sat, 10/27/2007 - 12:57

The template is for setting the rails height relative to the top of the table.  Makes no differencer what saw you have.


Regards,


Bob @ Kidderville Acres


 


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Bob @ Kidderville Acres

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Beisemeyer fence and rail (post #101149, reply #8 of 13)

by aszaf in reply to Anonymous [original] on Sun, 01/01/2012 - 19:17

I just bought a used Beisemeyer rail system to go with the Beisemeyer fence that I have. I would like to mount it to my Powermatic model 68 table saw but I have no instructions or hardware. If you still have those instructions and template would it be possible for you to email them to me? If not any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks, aszaf

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instructions (post #101149, reply #9 of 13)

by RalphBarker in reply to aszaf [original] on Mon, 01/02/2012 - 10:11

Note that the original post was made five years ago, reducing the chance of a response from the original poster.

You might try contacting Delta service to see if you can obtain instruction sheets for the Beisemeyer system (Delta bought Beisemeyer several years ago). Those instructions, of course, would relate to installation on a Delta saw, so you'd still have to make "adjustments" for installation on your Powermatic.

Since the rail attachment holes aren't likely to align, you'll probably have to drill new holes in the rail base to match the holes in the table of your saw. I would suggest arranging a means of holding the assembled rail and the fence in position against your saw, so you can determine both horizontal and vertical positioning of the new holes. A fair degree of precision is required, as you might guess.

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Biesemeyer Info (post #101149, reply #11 of 13)

by musashi in reply to aszaf [original] on Mon, 01/09/2012 - 20:31

Here is some stuff I found on my computer.  I don't remember if I ever got the hard copy of the template or not - I will root around in my shop and see.  Meanwhile, I hope that this stuff helps. 

 

Sorry that it took me so long to get back to you.

 

Alex

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Credit where credit is due (post #101149, reply #12 of 13)

by musashi in reply to musashi [original] on Fri, 01/13/2012 - 18:50

The pictures, by the way, are not mine.  They were sent to me by Marking (see above) when I was trying to figure out my Biesemeyer fence.  (If you're still out there, Mr. King, thanks again.)

 

Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -Groucho Marx
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Credit where credit is due (post #101149, reply #13 of 13)

by musashi in reply to musashi [original] on Fri, 01/13/2012 - 18:50

The pictures, by the way, are not mine.  They were sent to me by Marking (see above) when I was trying to figure out my Biesemeyer fence.  (If you're still out there, Mr. King, thanks again.)

 

Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -Groucho Marx
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I think the bicycle is man's best friend. Books run a close 2nd (post #101149, reply #10 of 13)

by roc in reply to musashi [original] on Mon, 01/02/2012 - 13:25

 Leghorn Clemens mulled , briefly , ( very breifly I should think ) the ambiance for reading inside a dog.

I believe he did very little woodworking ( perhaps rarely some minor big boat repair ).

However I heard tell one of his daughters was quite a good wood carver.

I have always admired the Jet table saws by the way.  Something about those huge chromed hand wheels and white paint.

roc

Give me six hours to chop down a tree and I will spend the first four sharpening the axe. Abraham Lincoln ( 54° shaves )