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mark1789's picture

I have Dewalt 12 inch compound miter saw and i am disappointed in the accuracy of the saw, it is accuract if you cut on the right side and inaccurate if you place the stock on the left. 


In any case i am looking to replace the saw with a sliding compound and would like some recomendations


I hope someone can help  Accuracy is the most important aspect  thanks

BruceS's picture

(post #102380, reply #1 of 23)

If   $$$$$$$$$$$    no object.  Festool Kapex.

Work Safe,  Count to 10 when your done for the day !!


Bruce S. 


 

Work Safe,  Count to 10 when your done for the day !!

Bruce S. 

 

mark1789's picture

(post #102380, reply #2 of 23)

Yes well  you are correct,  but fesstool is way to proud of thier products.  I think that tool is three times as much as the others  

paulbny's picture

(post #102380, reply #3 of 23)

Mark,


You might want to look over at Breaktime.  There are at least a dozen threads on this subject, with contributions from some very good trim carps.

 

 

Often in error but NEVER in doubt! 

OldGreen's picture

(post #102380, reply #4 of 23)

I'm a Makita man when it comes to sliding chop saws. I've been dragging around the same LS1310 for almost 10 years now, and it is still cutting true.

I think you can get it for under $500 now as well.

Matt

www.oldgreenwoodworking.com

dgreen's picture

(post #102380, reply #5 of 23)

Might that be the LS1013?


Great saw.


 


 


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OldGreen's picture

(post #102380, reply #8 of 23)

Yea, LS1013 it is. 1310 is my old address...

Matt

www.oldgreenwoodworking.com

frankfive's picture

(post #102380, reply #6 of 23)

Love my Bosch 12" SCM.

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flairwoodworks's picture

(post #102380, reply #7 of 23)

Mark,

I vote for the Makita. I have the 12 non-slider and love it. No complaints. I tried the Festool in the store and didn't care for it at all. I don't like vertical handles and the saw cannot be lowered (to align the cut) without the switch engaged.

Chris @ www.flairwoodwork.spaces.live.com
(soon to be www.flairwoodworks.com)


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heartwould's picture

(post #102380, reply #9 of 23)

Here's another post from a Makita guy, but I recently checked out the new Milwaukee 12" sms--very, very nice.  If my 10" Makita ever quits, I would seriously consider the 12" Milwaukee.

Scooter1's picture

(post #102380, reply #10 of 23)

I just had an awful experience with a Hitachi C8F.  I have had two of these saws, and loved them, light weight, deadly accurate, and could be banged around for years without affect cut quality.  So I purchased another last week.


The saw would not cut square and was off close to a 16th.  When I took it in to my supplier (I buy local), he opened up another.  Same problem, but worse.  Opened up another--same problem.  All six C8F's he had were defective.  Problem it seems is that Hitachi moved the production to China for the C8Fs.  The C10f is still made in Japan.


I replaced my trusty C8F with a C10. 


The Hitachi representative who was at the store was friendly enough but clueless.  I'm sorry when you have 7 saws, all defective, "Houston, we have a problem."  He just didn't think it was a big deal.  What worried my supplier was that he had sold three of the rascals in the past month.  They haven't come back yet.  Can you imagine my hassel if I purchased these from Amazon?


I still love Hitachi, and my new C10F is just fine.  But stay clear of that C8F.


Regards, Scooter "I may be drunk, but you're crazy, and I'll be sober tomorrow." WC Fields, "Its a Gift" 1934
Regards, Scooter "I may be drunk, but you're crazy, and I'll be sober tomorrow." WC Fields, "Its a Gift" 1934
Woodman41's picture

(post #102380, reply #14 of 23)

That Makita LS1013 won't quit. I couldn't imagine replace mine unless I was upgrading to the LS1212. When I reconfigured my shop around a sliding table saw I reduced my machine footprint quite a bit but there was no way I was going to get rid of my saw station built around my 1013, it's just too versatile and accurate to be replaced with anything else.

I would also echo the sentiment of another reply, which is that the Kapex is a heck of a nice saw but it just isn't 2-3x better than what Makita or Bosch or Hitachi is putting out.

heartwould's picture

(post #102380, reply #15 of 23)

Festool stuff does look nice--and they seem to have a good reputation--but I agree with you about not seeing a level of superiority that would justify getting rid of perfectly good equipment.  A friend who frequently plays the lottery swears that he will share generously with me in the event that he wins.  Until then, I think I'll stick with the Makita . . .

YesMaam27577's picture

(post #102380, reply #11 of 23)

I have the Hitachi 10" slider. I bought mine on closeout when they introduced the newer model with the laser sights.

It was dead on accurate right out of the box. It's been in and out of my pickup truck bed about 200 times since then, and I have only tuned it up once. I finally replaced the blade two weeks ago.

As to the newer model with the laser -- get the lasers if you think they are needed. But with any miter saw, you make your pencil mark on the wood, then you can put the teeth of the (no-yet-running) saw directly on the mark. Then make your cut. Its actually more accurate that way than with a laser.

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terrylee86's picture

(post #102380, reply #12 of 23)

I have the Hitachi C10F with a laser and it is dead accurate, but FWW just reviewed the sliding mitersaws and said the new Milwaukee 12" is the best saw.

lostcreek's picture

(post #102380, reply #13 of 23)

I've had the Bosch 10" slider for a couple of years and have no complaints except the poor dust collection, but that is typical of SCMS's. I particularly like the adjustable handle and up front adjustments. I'm afraid you'll get many opinions on this subject, mostly from owners proud of their choice. Your best bet is to try as many as you can of the top two or three, and choose for yourself. My guess is that you pretty much get what you pay for, and will do fine with the Bosch, Makita , etc.

photonut's picture

(post #102380, reply #16 of 23)

Have you tried to adjust the fences on the saw you have? That DeWalt should be a fine saw. If it cuts well in relation to the right fence, lay a straight edge across both fences, and adjust the left fence to match the right.

mark1789's picture

(post #102380, reply #17 of 23)

The dewalt saw has a one piece fence.  If i adjust the left to be correct the right is off.  I thought i could adjust it and spent about two hours trying to get it correct.  Maybe a new fence could correct the problem but i dont want to spend more money on this saw and it is out of warranty.  thanks

photonut's picture

(post #102380, reply #18 of 23)

Sounds like it's bent. You may as well try taking it off and straightening it. What have you got to lose? You could also make one from plywood.

If you don't want to mess with it, I'll buy it cheap.

SARGEgrinder47's picture

(post #102380, reply #19 of 23)

One of the main reasons I have owned two Hitachi SCMS is the two piece fence which adjust separately.


Sarge..

Sarge..

Woodworkers' Guild of Georgia

Y1RET's picture

(post #102380, reply #20 of 23)

Sarge,


            What it the advantage of a two piece fence on a miter saw. I have a 12 inch non sliding porter cable with a two piece fence. Not long after I bought mine they switch to a one piece fence. I always thought the one piece fence would stay more aligned.


 


Bob T.

SARGEgrinder47's picture

(post #102380, reply #21 of 23)

Bob... go back and read the problem the OP is having with a one piece. He replaces the fence... tries to straighten it.. or possible shim. And even if it were bent beyond repair... I can replace only one side. With the two piece I simply loosen two screws and adjustment if it were to become mis-aligned. I have done that only once in 7 years with both a 10" and 12" Hitachi and took about two minutes.


Now... maybe there is someone out there that could give a reason beyond my current thinking why a one piece is a better option? If so... speak now or forever hold your peace as I am going to continue to think that. :>)


Regards...


Sarge..

Sarge..

Woodworkers' Guild of Georgia

trimdaddy's picture

(post #102380, reply #22 of 23)

sarge,


I concure completely w/ you. A 2 piece fence represents maximum adjustablility. It reduces tune ups to a matter of squareing one side w/ the blade and then aligning the other side w/ the previous. 


 I think you are more likely to find the one piece fences on the less refined saws that aren't engineered as well. They in theory are more "dummy" proof but don't allow for near the precision.


Maximum adjustability is a priceless quality in tools because as a perfectionist it allows me to determine the accuracy of my tools vs. the mass production of a factory.

SARGEgrinder47's picture

(post #102380, reply #23 of 23)

I am a solid wood furniture maker but use a SCMS for most all cross-cuts with the aid of some extensions that give me 14' range. I am definitely not a trim man that uses one 8 hours a day. But... I originally got the Hitachi after doing some home-work and talking to some of my local and experienced trim guys who preferred the two piece fence for just those reasons.


It just makes sense to me....


Regards...


Sarge..

Sarge..

Woodworkers' Guild of Georgia