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Alternate Sources for Delta 46-715 Lathe Parts
Alternate Sources for Delta 46-715 Lathe Parts (post #169587)
Oakman608 on Mon, 01/09/2012 - 20:28
I had the reeves pulley on my Delta 46-715 lathe crumble apart on me four months ago. Since that time I have been trying to get a replacement part from a couple of different Delta parts manufacturers. I finally received word that this part has been discontinued. This is not surprising since I have heard that this is a very common problem with the 46-715 type 2 lathe. I am wondering if anyone has found a suitable replacement for this part perhaps from a different tool manufacturer?
The part number is 909945, this split pulley goes on a 16 mm motor shaft, and the outside diameter of the pulley is approximately 115 mm. The pulley is fastened to the shaft with a straight keyway.
I would appreciate hearing if anyone else has been able to find this part?
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Delta Lathe Parts (post #169587, reply #1 of 21)
I represent the New Delta and just wanted to let you know we are aware of these parts issues and are working hard to find new sources to make parts for Delta machinery and equipment including this Lathe. Unfortunately when S-B&D decided to sell Delta many manufacturers stopped making parts. We are finding new, better sources for these parts. It may take a while but we are working to fix this. Thanks.
The New Delta (post #169587, reply #3 of 21)
Paul, it's good to know that Delta is working on improved parts availability. And, it's nice to see that the company is making an effort to monitor popular woodworking Web sites. If the "new" company also inherited the archives of owner's manuals, is there also an effort to improve online availability?
As an aside, my father managed an old-school hardware store that had its beginnings in the 1880s. When I worked there in the late '50s to early '60s, we were a "full-line" Delta dealer, which, at that time, meant we had at least one of each of the machines that Delta made in stock. Back then, that was a "bunch" of machines. Thus, I'm hopeful that the new ownership will allow Delta to regain its historical standing in the market.
Parts (post #169587, reply #6 of 21)
I am happy to see that Delta is working on this issue. If I may offer some assistance to your company with this effort. There are many machine shops that I am sure would be willing to make these parts for you at a high enough standard to further entrust people to buy your brand. Their primary location is due east of your current manufacturing location in a place called The United States of America.
Misdirected reply (post #169587, reply #7 of 21)
"Their primary location is due east of your current manufacturing location in a place called The United States of America."
You should have replied to PaulDelta's post, rather than mine. But I appreciate the humor.
Delta Lathe Pulleys (post #169587, reply #18 of 21)
If you need the drive-motor pulley, soon enough you will need the head-stock pulley as well.
I jerryrigged a multi-stage pulley onto the drive motor and changed gears manually. While far less than satisfactory, that worked for a while.
Now my main pulley has broken and guess what... those are also hard to find!
My lathe would make a nice boat anchor!
Baldor-Dodge (post #169587, reply #2 of 21)
Did you try going through Baldor-Dodge, the current manufacturer of the Reeves pulley? They have reubuild kits for many of the Reeves pulleys.
There are quite a few Reeves pulleys on E-bay. Also, there is a variable speed pulley assembly on E-bay from a Delta metal lathe that might work.
Might also try checking out the Jet lathes, to see if their Reeves drive could be adapated.
Are you sure the shaft is 16-mm (0.6299-inches), and not 5/8-inch (0.625-inches)?
Baldor-Dodge (post #169587, reply #5 of 21)
Thanks for the suggestions.
Yes, it is a 16 mm shaft, checked it several times with digital calipers.
Came close to something I could use on ebay, got lost in the huge Baldor-Dodge web site. I am going to contact Jet and see if their Reeves pulley will work. I gotta do something, I haven't turned a thing in four months, I'm starting to go into withdrawal.
Delta 46-715 Lathe Parts (post #169587, reply #4 of 21)
Apparently this is a recurring problem with this pulley--it breaks into pieces at higher speeds and replacement pulleys are like hens' teeth. There's not an after-market website that I have not tried for a replacement or substitute pulley, all with the same answer. The number one search result for Google is e-replacement parts and speaking to their representative by phone I learned that they have been out of that part for some time and that it is a frequently replaced part.
My own solution might be to substitute a multi-step pulley system which may need to be "shifted" manually rather than on-the-fly as with the reeves pulley.
If anyone has come upon a home solution, I would appreciate knowing about it. For now I'm a little disappointed in Delta whom I had trusted for many years as a reliable manufacturer of quality machine parts.
Pully (post #169587, reply #10 of 21)
I have a freind whom has a Grizly lathe that looks very similar to the Delta. he sent me pictures of the head stock and the interior looks identical. I contacted Grizley tech suport and though they only support their brand, he commented my feelings they may have been made in the same factory are probally be corect. Anyway $54 later I have on on its way to my house. Hopfully will be here by Friday and I will be able to post a part number to order. Will keep you informed.
Making lathe shavings again (post #169587, reply #11 of 21)
I would be interesed to hear if the Grizley part works.
After nearly 5 months, I am finally making piles of wood shavings on my Delta lathe.
I ordered the reves pulley for the Jet 1442 lathe, and was able to get it to work on my Delta 46-715 lathe. The part number is JWL1442-159. At first the pulley would not quite fit on the motor shaft. I took a wooden dowel rod and wrapped a 320 grit sand paper around the dowel and slightly bored out the hole on the pulley to get it to fit. Also, I sanded down the burr on the motor shaft that the set screws made.
The only issue that I noticed was that the pulley is a little smaller than the Delta part, so I lost the two top speeds on the lathe. Since the pulley is smaller, the belt goes all the way to the top an comes off the pulley when the speed handle is cranked up to the two fastest speeds.
Today I loaded up an 11" diameter spalted maple chuck, about 6" thick, and the lathe handled it with the Jet part, no problem.
Hope this helps someone else with a similar problem.
Grizzly replacement (post #169587, reply #13 of 21)
Any news on your grizzly replacement part? I am in the same boat. Pulley disentigrated last night........ Hoping you have good news for the rest of us on how this worked. Thanks in advance for the update.
I found one of these lathes (post #169587, reply #12 of 21)
I found one of these lathes on craigslist woman said it was her fathers and he bough it and never used it and that looked to be true, i plugged it in and ran the motor, at lower speeds it had a rattle in the drive and after a min or two of running had a ligh burning smell of rubber, is this the problem you are talking about is this lathe worth buying she wants 300 and the drive spur and tail center is missing as well as the spindle wrench and knock out tool
Pullet (post #169587, reply #14 of 21)
Took a chance and dropped the $45.00 on a pulley from Grizzly for their lathe, part #4048211. Should arrive tomorrow. Sent an email to Delta asking for timeline on replacement part of alternate fix, all I got was "sorry" but they did end it with "Thanks for being a Delta customer"! If anyone from Delta is listening......it should be former Delta Customer. I'll keep you guys in the loop on the grizzly part. As a back up, Lovejoy makes a variable speed pulley (model 5010A) with a 5/8 bore that may work also. Thought I would go with the cheaper first and try it before dropping $180.00 for the lovejoy. Keep your fingers crossed for me guys.
Forgot to mention other source (post #169587, reply #15 of 21)
Sorry for the heading on the last post...I'll proofread a little better on this one. I forgot to mention, if you need the pulley kit for the headstock, check out M & D Mower and Appliance. Spam filter wouldn't let me post the website link. They have the best prices available for the 24mm shaft pulley kit. If you have had the melt down on the motor pulley, it would be a good idea to check the headstock pulley as they are notorious about developing root cracks at the outer edges of the pulley where they intermesh.
Grizzly replacement works!! (post #169587, reply #16 of 21)
Got the replacement pulley Grizzly offers for their lathe. It worked like a dream. It does get a little close of jumping off at the highest speed, so I would recommend not going up to the highest speed setting. The part number for the pulley is PO462009. Hope this helps the rest of you out that are looking for a fix.
which pulley is which? (post #169587, reply #17 of 21)
I got a little confused. Was the grizzly replacement pulley you purchased that worked for the motor pulley or the head stock. I need the motor pulley replacement part # 909945 and would like to get a replacement pulley which I won't have to do to many mods to get it to fit. So is the PO462009 for the motor pulley? Thanks, Doc
pulley for turning lathe (post #169587, reply #19 of 21)
I too had a pulley shatter. After exhausting all the Delta sites, I found a replacement pulley. It is manufactured by Lovejoy. The part is a Econoline 4007. It went on hard since the motor shaft seemed a bit over=sized. I mounted it with the spring away from the motor. I just got it installed, but must say it is much quieter than the old pulley which had become warped. The cost of the pulley was #136.00 pluis tax and shipping, but since my lathe was useless without it, I felt it was worthwhile.
pulley (post #169587, reply #20 of 21)
I have an extra one for the 46.715. let me know if you still need one.
Do you still have he pully (post #169587, reply #21 of 21)
Do you still have he pully for the drive shaft on the delta 46-715 lathe? if you have pics can you email them to me at jwize101@yahoo.com?
Thanks,
Jason