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10 inch or 12 inch miter saw

phantomfixer's picture

I am looking to buy a sliding miter saw. Would it be best to get a 12 inch over a 10 inch ? I make cabinets and furniture. I currently have a 10 inch Porter Cable compound saw. I have centered my research on the Bosch and Milwaukee sliding saws.  I can get the Milwaukee 12 inch dual bevel sliding saw with digital readout for $540. Any thoughts would be a help !!

 

Chuck

woodrapper's picture

12 inch (post #158766, reply #1 of 14)

I use a 10" compund, non-sliding, DeWalt and very often wish it was a 12" slider.  There is very little room in my 1/2 garage setup, or I would have the bigger saw.  It's irritatingly frustrating when the board is too wide for the saw!  Fortunately I can vent without anyone hearing me, but having a bigger and/or sliding saw would be much better.

swenson's picture

frustrating when board too wide (post #158766, reply #3 of 14)

Woodrapper

When my 10in DeWalt is too small to make the cut I cut what I can and flip the board to the other side and make the other side of the cut.  Then I clean it up on the table saw to make it square.  I'm not too sure if this is a dangerous way to do things but I've been doing it for a while and it seems safe.  Sometimes when I eyeball it right I get a smooth cut right across, sometimes there is a tiny offset.

woodrapper's picture

Flip the board (post #158766, reply #4 of 14)

Hi Swenson

Yes, that's what I have often done, but seldom hit the mark, so I've pretty much taken to using a sled on the table (contractor) saw to begin with.  In my setup, available space is measured in inches, literally, but a slider would really be a very good thing! 

birchwoodguy's picture

which saw to get (post #158766, reply #2 of 14)

Phontomfixer! (nice monicor)

I have both  10 and 12 inch saws in my shop. If you get a slider, the difference in capacity is nearly ZIP (Yep zero, ziltch nota)

I would suggest you look at more than just price.  I find that the 10 inch is very handy and as an added bonus can share blades with my TS as well.  If you check carefully I think you will find the 10-inch slider will give you the same cut capacity as the 12 but the blades are far less expensive and as I said you can share them with a 10" TS.  You may save enough money in the price difference to buy a quality cut-off blade to replace the factory supplied blade that is...well... not the best blade for furniture work.

Robert.

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Miter Saw, Bigger isn't always better, just more impressive (post #158766, reply #5 of 14)

I have 2 12" Mak sliders, the Mak 7+" and am looking at either the new Mak 10" or Bosch.  While it's true they all can cut about the same width (~12"), the payout for me is the depth of cut, which, due to the 12" blade, is greater than on a 10"er over the entire travel length.  (I often use a 12"er  to cut 4x4 posts.) 

The depth of cut is of greatest importance when cutting high molding, such as tall baseboards or large crown.  The new 10"ers have addressed some of this by making the depth of cut at the fence much deeper than in the past.

The disadvantages of a 12"er (for me) is the weight; I lug the thing around for my remodeling work, and bought the Mak. 7"er for the smaller jobs.  The other con is blade deflection; a 12" blade will deflect more, which when cutting for furniture matters a lot more than when framing a deck.

There must be a million comparison articles/blogs, try the search function and see what crops up.

Good luck.

"I am the master of my fate, I am the captain of my soul."  Invictus, by Henley.

RalphBarker's picture

new Bosch (post #158766, reply #6 of 14)

If the saw will be for shop use, you might also want to look at the new Bosch "glider" - Model GCM12SD. No space is required behind the saw for the "old" slider tubes.

Zolton's picture

Also.. (post #158766, reply #7 of 14)

Ralph,

Also, the new Bosch glider saw claims a 14 inch crosscut at 90 degrees. That would put it at or above what many radial saws - and all sliders I know of - can accommodate.

Zolton

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RalphBarker's picture

glide vs. slide (post #158766, reply #9 of 14)

Yes, the crosscut capacity of the new Bosch is pretty impressive. Plus, it just looks really sexy. I got an e-mail ad from Woodworker's Supply earlier today. Their price on it is $899.95, and they are usually pretty competitive, price-wise.  Looks like the Kapex Effect is spreading. ;-)

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Bosch saw.. (post #158766, reply #10 of 14)

Ralph,

I've been following the arrival of this saw for some time now, and you're right - it does look impressive. The fact that it can fit in a smaller space due to its lack of slider rails is a real plus. That would make it ideal for my shop and the limited area I have to devote to that particular tool.

But, my Makita 10 inch slider works just fine, and I've made accommodation in my shop for it to fit. If I were a younger man, like you, I'd be very tempted to go for the upgrade. As it is though, I think I'll sit tight with what I've got for a while and just continue to admire the Bosch from afar. If the need for it presents itself though, I'll not hesitate.

I've got a lot of Bosch tools, and other than a fiasco with their disintegrating magnesium router a few years ago (which, to their credit, they replaced entirely), I've been very satisfied with their quality and longevity.

Zolton

If you see a possum running around in here, kill it. It's not a pet. - Jackie Moon

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Oooh, "younger man" - I like (post #158766, reply #11 of 14)

Oooh, "younger man" - I like that. But, alas, I'm at the point of including "years-remaining amortization" as a consideration in purchase decisions. So, I'll probably just drool over the ads and eventual reviews of the glider, too.

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Get a 12" as bigger is always (post #158766, reply #8 of 14)

Get a 12" as bigger is always better.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I10K3N-UCnY

 

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Go retro (post #158766, reply #12 of 14)

Seeing as I have no problem with room, "yah right".   But enough to give up on miter/chop saws.    I opted out for "old arn", and went for a 1947 DeWalt GP radial arm 2hp/12".  Granted it's not portable at about 525 lbs,  thats including the eight fool long 6/4 hard maple table I added.  And able to crosscut 151/2".    At $125, pre restoration,  how could I go wrong ?

But,  my dream and love for having a Festool Kapex is fading.

Work Safe,  Count to 10 when your done for the day !!

Bruce S. 

 

RalphBarker's picture

dreams (post #158766, reply #13 of 14)

The Kapex ekklipse may be a good thing.  ;-)

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I have the DeWalt 718.  Love (post #158766, reply #14 of 14)

I have the DeWalt 718.  Love the laser guide (once installed and aligned), plenty of power, and the fold-up stand is well worth the price.  

Downside is the fence.  It gets in the way on steep miters and I'm always having to mess with it.  

If I had it to do over again I'd buy the new Bosch or Festool.  Still I won't be replacing it-- the DeWalt does the job.