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Biscardi on Tue, 02/11/2003 - 16:15

Knots Gallery

I thought I'd bore you all with snaps of some of my work. I don't know how to. Could someone give me a thumbnail on how to do so?

Thanks

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by Froed in reply to Biscardi [original] on Tue, 02/11/2003 - 18:05

When you're editing your post, there's a button that says "Attach Files". Clicking on it opens another window. Browse to the directory and file you want. Click "Upload". Repeat the browse and upload for as many pictures as you want to attach. When you've attached all the files you want to, click "Done" and finish your post. Hit "Preview" to make sure they're there, then post it.

And there it is.

Froed

Preview	Attachment	Size
	2001_finished_comparison.jpg	87.13 KB
	wagon_wheel_2.jpg	27.11 KB

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by jjhamer in reply to Anonymous [original] on Sat, 02/15/2003 - 19:53

I've got the "attaching files" part down, but still having problems with the photo sizes.

Using Photoshop Elements, I'm able to change the Pixel size and document size.

What should the pixel size, file size, and measurments be set at? If I just post the photos straight out of the camera or scanner they are too big to see.

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by forestgirl in reply to Anonymous [original] on Sat, 02/15/2003 - 20:52

JJ, try to keep the file size below 50kb or so. I don't know PhotoShop, so not sure how to do that, but 50kb is usually plenty. Crop out all the unnecessary stuff, resize the pic and whatever else PhotoShop will do. I generally don't click to see any attachment that's over 75kb.

PS: If there's an adjustment somewhere to reduce dpi, set it as low as you can down to 100dpi. Occasionally, I've had to go to 300 for detail.

forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)

Edited 2/15/2003 2:54:03 PM ET by forestgirl

forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)

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by jjhamer in reply to Anonymous [original] on Sat, 02/15/2003 - 21:01

Thanks for the info.

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by Splintie in reply to Anonymous [original] on Sun, 02/16/2003 - 07:42

I set to 72 DPI--what the web uses.

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by Splintie in reply to Anonymous [original] on Sun, 02/16/2003 - 07:50

I use Photoshop Elelments quite a bit, too. Cropping is important to me; i get irritated when i wait for a photo to load that wastes the first ten seconds on blue sky.

It's weird, but i seem to get variable results when i rely on file size for posting pics. I can usually get away with file sizes of up to 500KB that the software here will compress to something manageable. Also, how much resolution do you need? When i posted pics of a wood i was trying to identify, i used larger file sizes, but for most things i try to hold the file size (as a .jpg file extension) to 2-300 KB in Photoshop Elements as a guide for you. This reduces to about 10-25% in size by the time this Prospero software does its thang to it.

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by jjhamer in reply to Anonymous [original] on Sun, 02/16/2003 - 15:10

Thanks for the info, I think I've got the file size down, but how do we size the photo? It would be nice to fill the screen with the picture, and be able to adjust the DPI depending on how much detail we want to show. When I attach photos I really don't know exactly what size they will show up as.

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by Splintie in reply to Anonymous [original] on Sun, 02/16/2003 - 21:22

Hmm...as you can see, i've been having trouble trying to figure out why Photshop Element's "save to web" feature is blurring everything so badly. I thought it would be a cool shortcut to what i do, which is, basically, guesstimate. I'll have to play more some other time, though, with this program.

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by forestgirl in reply to Anonymous [original] on Thu, 02/20/2003 - 21:13

[sticking my nose in here]:

"It would be nice to fill the screen with the picture" -- I disagree. What fills one screes completely overfills another. My home computer runs on Win95 and a 15" monitor. My retail-store's computer is WinXP and a flat-screen LCD monitor that is equivalent to a 17" CRT monitor. There's a world of difference in what constitutes a full screen.

Give me a nice compact but visually pleasing, well-cropped picture that downloads quickly. This translates to a small (<50kb) file size. Back in my eBay selling days, I posted pics and pics and pics, everthing from a sports card to big isplay cases. No pictures were ever more than 45 kb, and few were more than 15.

forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)

forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)

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by UncleDunc in reply to Anonymous [original] on Thu, 02/20/2003 - 23:07

Definitely agree with those who advocate cropping. Sky, treetops, shop ceiling, wide expanse of lawn or driveway, family car all add very little to woodworking pictures. Pets and kids are positives though.

I think squeezing file size can be taken to extremes. A picture that's both small on the screen and low resolution does load very fast, but too often it doesn't tell me much. I've seen pictures here or furniture that could just as well have been made from vinyl siding as wood, for all I could see in the picture.

I have a couple of other issues that have more to do with shooting pictures and choosing which ones to post than with image processing.

Please use enough light. If I can't even see the edges of an object against the background, the picture isn't making the impression you probably hoped it would.

If you're going to use a flash, please don't stand directly in front of the piece. When I see the big blob of blinding white light in the middle of your entertainment center, I start preparing myself for beings from another universe to come through the portal. (Fortunately, in woodworking we seldom have the opportunity to post pictures like the one that gave rise to the advice, "Please put some clothes on before you take pictures of highly polished metal objects.")

If you're going to shoot close-ups, please buy a camera that will focus close up and learn how to focus it. I've seen too many close-ups that were so fuzzy they actually showed less detail than the more normal shots.

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by jjhamer in reply to Anonymous [original] on Thu, 02/20/2003 - 23:10

Thanks for the comments on file sizes. I'll keep it in mind. I agree that 90% of the pictures posted only need to be (<50kb).

As you can see I'm new to posting, just changed the name to "unisaw", and just learning how to get from the camera to editing, to the post.

Many of the attached photos in Knots are terrible. Great woodworking, but terrible photos. I'm working on a fairly simple way to take decent photos and then post them efficiently.

Better detail, no junk in the background/foreground, better lighting, etc.

Sorry about the attachment being 79kb. It's what I can post right now. I knew I'd get some use for this finial that exploded on the lathe. At least the flying piece didn't hit me in the head.

Preview	Attachment	Size
	finialturing.jpg	78.81 KB

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by jjhamer in reply to Anonymous [original] on Fri, 02/21/2003 - 04:33

Is there a limit on the amount of storage space for attachements ?

http://forums.taunton.com/tp-breaktime/messages?msg=20861.2

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by SYSOP in reply to Anonymous [original] on Fri, 02/21/2003 - 15:54

Hey Unisaw,

There used to be a limit but we got rid of the limit per the users requests so now there is no size limit, with the exception that you can only attach up to 3 megs worth of images per post. But if scaled and sized correctly 3 megs worth of images is plenty. Let me know if you have further questions about attaching images and feel free to head over to the sandbox to practice attaching and sizing images. Also I tend to see a lot more of the posts over there, but as you have a great resource here with forest girl I don't think I'll see you over there much...

Here is a link. http://forums.taunton.com/tp-thesandbox/messages
-Mark

SYSOP
Forumhelp@taunton.com

Mark

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by jjhamer in reply to Anonymous [original] on Fri, 02/21/2003 - 16:29

Thanks for the info, Mark.

I just spent some time at the sandbox, good information for us beginners.

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by BertJ in reply to Biscardi [original] on Mon, 02/17/2003 - 20:01

Bisc,

If you are using PhotoShop, first clean up your photograph by selecting Image - Adjust - Auto Levels. This will correct most of the poor lighting, etc. If you still need to eliminate shadows or tone down a shiny reflection, go to Image - Adjust - Curves and play with the diagonal line. Place the mouse on the line about one-third of the way and drag it up or down and observe the result. Go to the two-third point and drag the line in the opposite direction, creating an "S" curve. Finally, open Image - Image Size and change the largest dimension on the top pair to 525 pixels. This will scale your photo for web posting. Save your final result. Post it as described earlier.

PhotoShop is a wonderful tool and will allow you to post very nice pictures. Print out a copy for your shop log.

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by jjhamer in reply to Anonymous [original] on Tue, 02/18/2003 - 20:10

Thanks Bert and Forest girl for the information,<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />

Here's another set of photos:

The photo started out as a JPEG file at 2,830kb. Photo taken with 4 quartz hallogen 500 watt builders lights and an old paint drop cloth. (I'll get a real backdrop someday). Camera on tripod set at 1/60sec, f2.8 white balance - incandescent-3. Exposure compensation +1.0ev.

In Photoshop elements: Rotate right 90deg. then used Crop to get rid of the distractions on the sides of the original photo. The “cropped grinder” attachment is done at this cropping stage.

Then Image - Adjust - Auto Levels This seems to correct the color beyond what the camera/scanner can do.

Next Image -Resize - Image Size changed the pixels per inch to 96. Then changed the size to 362 pixels wide by 500 pixels high per the advise from above posts.

Finally saved the file as a JPEG low quality producing a file sizes of around 70kb. (from 2,830kb)

Notice you cannot read the word "stop" on the "grinder" attachment, but on the "cropped grinder" photo, you can. Both attachments are from the same original.

Preview	Attachment	Size
	cropped_grinder.jpg	70.56 KB
	grinder.jpg	64.96 KB

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by jjhamer in reply to Anonymous [original] on Tue, 02/18/2003 - 22:42

Heres a different picture at 350kb. Better detail, but you have to scroll up and down to see it.

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	grinder2large.jpg	29.82 KB

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by jjhamer in reply to Anonymous [original] on Tue, 02/18/2003 - 23:18

here it is posted directly

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by jjhamer in reply to Anonymous [original] on Wed, 02/19/2003 - 06:08

Heres the link to posting photos directly. Very helpful information:

http://forums.taunton.com/tp-breaktime/messages?msg=19126.28

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GEide in reply to Anonymous [original] on Wed, 09/14/2011 - 08:32

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by Solnishko in reply to

GEide [original] on Wed, 09/14/2011 - 09:14

Woodworker turned sculptor Denis Curtiss in Kent CT...

When you find something you're good at, stick with it

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