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Is Simple Green really bad ??????????

Is Simple Green really bad ?????????? (post #169605)

dennis2 on Fri, 01/13/2012 - 00:41

General Discussion

A friend of mine read recently that Simple Green should not be used for cleaning saw blades because it can damage the carbide.

I have been using Simple Green for years to clean my saw blades and router bits. It's not as fast as lye or oven cleaner but its not corrosive and its non-toxic. but always seemed to do a good job.

Does anyone have any more information about this?

Dennis

I once cleaned an entire MG with the stuff (post #169605, reply #1 of 9)

by roc in reply to dennis2 [original] on Fri, 01/13/2012 - 03:03

Not the engine internals. I can't be around Simple Green now ; messes with my lungs.

Citrus cleaner is better and doesn't mess up my lungs. Been using it for more than ten years now.

http://www.amazon.com/Zep-Commercial-Cit...

That's a rip off from Amazon. I just showed that one because it was easy to find. Local Home Depot is way cheeper. (no shipping)

Works on regular blades with pitch on them like from purple heart wood.

Look at your carbides with magnification. Are they pitted or discolored ? Is the silver that holds them on attacked ? Sounds like if you have not had problems by now then you won't.

Wear a full face shield around carbides ; even when factory new they can fracture and kill you.

http://www.amazon.com/MSA-Safety-Works-8...

roc

Give me six hours to chop down a tree and I will spend the first four sharpening the axe. Abraham Lincoln ( 54° shaves )

Freud did some tests and (post #169605, reply #2 of 9)

by JerryPacMan in reply to dennis2 [original] on Fri, 01/13/2012 - 06:15

Freud did some tests and found that it is not good for blades. Below is a link with pictures. I use CMT blade cleaner and find that it works very well quickly.

http://www.sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?81102-Carbide-and-Lye-(Oven-Cleaner)-Problems&p=821475#post821475

Life is what happens to you when you're making other plans.

When your ship comes in... make sure you are not at the airport.

soak or not? (post #169605, reply #3 of 9)

by blopar in reply to JerryPacMan [original] on Fri, 01/13/2012 - 06:49

Do you soak your blades or bits for a determinate time or just spray and brush?

I spray on the blade and let (post #169605, reply #4 of 9)

by JerryPacMan in reply to blopar [original] on Fri, 01/13/2012 - 08:43

I spray on the blade and let it work for no more than 5 minutes.

http://www.amazon.com/CMT-Formula-2050-Blade-Cleaner/product-reviews/B0006G83W0/ref=cm_cr_dp_all_helpful?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1&sortBy=bySubmissionDateDescending

Life is what happens to you when you're making other plans.

When your ship comes in... make sure you are not at the airport.

The manufacturer of Simple (post #169605, reply #6 of 9)

by HowardAcheson in reply to JerryPacMan [original] on Sat, 01/14/2012 - 09:56

The manufacturer of Simple Green specifically recommends NOT using their standard product on carbide tooling. They have product intended for cleaning metal which they say will work fine.

Howie.........

I haved tried Extreme Simple (post #169605, reply #7 of 9)

by JerryPacMan in reply to HowardAcheson [original] on Sat, 01/14/2012 - 11:06

I haved tried Extreme Simple Green. I like the CMT blade cleaner better, it is fast and effective.

Life is what happens to you when you're making other plans.

When your ship comes in... make sure you are not at the airport.

New twist ! (post #169605, reply #8 of 9)

by BruceS in reply to HowardAcheson [original] on Sat, 01/14/2012 - 13:38

That is a new twist on Simple Green, thanks.

A soaking in lacquer thinner works if you enjoy a Buzz. But I set it outside to soak in a pizza pan.

Work Safe, Count to 10 when your done for the day !!

Bruce S.

>>>> But I set it outside to (post #169605, reply #9 of 9)

by HowardAcheson in reply to BruceS [original] on Sun, 01/15/2012 - 09:15

>>>> But I set it outside to soak in a pizza pan.

I too, use a pizza pan but I used kerosene. Works fine and leaves a little bit of oil that prevents rust.

Howie.........

Simple green (post #169605, reply #5 of 9)

by robscaffe in reply to dennis2 [original] on Fri, 01/13/2012 - 18:38

I have been using 409 for many years and it works well. About a 1 or 2 minute soak in a shallow container and the soap and crud can be wiped off with a paper towel. It will corrode the steel body however if left for long periods as in overnight.