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Jammersix's picture

Remember that I'm a trained professional, and my years of expertise are what stood me in good stead throughout this operation.

My best guess is that this log ran 300-400 pounds.


"A few of us went down to Gettysburg. Some of us didn't come back.

If you weren't there, you'll never understand."-- Unknown Infantryman

swenson's picture

wow (post #156056, reply #1 of 27)

I hope no one was hurt.  2nd, I hope the damage wsn't too bad.  At least you have a good sense of humor about it.

Jammersix's picture

Nope (post #156056, reply #2 of 27)

No one was hurt-- we were upstairs, watching a pre-season game of the National Felon's League. As soon as I heard it, I knew what it was...

Broke a cast iron piece on the bandsaw called Bracket Trunnion Support, cost me $32.


"A few of us went down to Gettysburg. Some of us didn't come back.

If you weren't there, you'll never understand."-- Unknown Infantryman

Eef's picture

jam, perhaps i am not the (post #156056, reply #3 of 27)

jam,

perhaps i am not the sharpest knife in the drawer or it could be that i assumed too much from the pictures, but for a moment there i thought you to be milling your own in some new and very ballsy way...

eef

WillGeorge's picture

eef (post #156056, reply #5 of 27)

I thought the same thing! I had a good laugh on your post...

I thought he had a horizontal bandsaw!

Have a great day.. Life is wonderful even if you are having a bad day!

swenson's picture

rotate pix #2 (post #156056, reply #6 of 27)

I doesn't look as bad if you rotate picture #2 by 90 degrees counterclockwise.  If only it were that easy.

Jammersix's picture

Yah! (post #156056, reply #7 of 27)

You switch it on, you pick that sucker up...


"A few of us went down to Gettysburg. Some of us didn't come back.

If you weren't there, you'll never understand."-- Unknown Infantryman

Eef's picture

...and one becomes the latest (post #156056, reply #9 of 27)

...and one becomes the latest no-no statistic in a long array of what NOT to do.  buddy of mine wrote to fww mag about using a bench top t-saw upside down when no portable buzz saw was to be had.  not only was his idea rejected but he was roundly scolded for even suggesting the afore-mentioned tactic.  go figure.

eef

KiddervilleAcres's picture

Huh, that's just wrong... (post #156056, reply #10 of 27)

eef,

I don't understand, I mean they (FWW) featured belt sander drag racing in #127..........  And, the name of the article was True Grit!

Regards,

Bob @ Kidderville Acres

A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!

RalphBarker's picture

Ouch (post #156056, reply #4 of 27)

Glad no one was hurt, and that the damage to the BS was minimal.

gofigure57's picture

Where you trying to use it  (post #156056, reply #8 of 27)

Where you trying to use it  like a portable band saw? you must be very strong.:)

Jammersix's picture

Well (post #156056, reply #12 of 27)

Well, that IS why I bought such a small one...

I have to use my other hand for the log.


"A few of us went down to Gettysburg. Some of us didn't come back.

If you weren't there, you'll never understand."-- Unknown Infantryman

roc's picture

When I was choosing a band (post #156056, reply #15 of 27)

  When I was choosing a band saw several years ago I would kneel down, put one hand on the table and pull down and let up, watching the amount of flex, so I could get an idea of how rigid the table supports were. I learned pretty quick the cast iron under the Deltas was much stiffer than the aluminum under most everything else. My Laguna is even better supported than the Deltas. Now I am beginning to see why my "subconscious" "reptile" part of my brain was telling me to do that. At the time I thought, along with the store clerks no   doubt  , that I was just being an anal retentive lookyloo.

roc

Give me six hours to chop down a tree and I will spend the first four sharpening the axe. Abraham Lincoln ( 54° shaves )

Jammersix's picture

Rather Saw On My Feet (post #156056, reply #11 of 27)

... than looky on my knees. Or something. I forget.

You'd have to be fourteen feet tall to kneel down to this table-- it's at the level of my hooters.

Which is why the crash was so spectacular.


"A few of us went down to Gettysburg. Some of us didn't come back.

If you weren't there, you'll never understand."-- Unknown Infantryman

roc's picture

:   ) (post #156056, reply #13 of 27)

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roc

Give me six hours to chop down a tree and I will spend the first four sharpening the axe. Abraham Lincoln ( 54° shaves )

bduffin104's picture

That's exactly the way I have (post #156056, reply #14 of 27)

That's exactly the way I have my tools arranged. It's very efficient if you use the band saw while laying down.

Bret

9619's picture

Jam, Sorry to see that your (post #156056, reply #16 of 27)

Jam,

Sorry to see that your bandsaw knocked over your nice log.  Was there any real damage to the log?       Bandsaws can be replaced, but  a nice piece of wood is a miracle of nature.       

Maybe we need a thread on storing logs in the workshop.    Or maybe a thread on increasing the stability of bandsaws.  Jet modified its 14" bandsaw by welding in a riser block and turning it into a re-saw machine.   We had one at the Woodcraft store but it was a bit of a hazard.  Jet realized that the taller machine with increased weight on top was not as as stabile as it should be, so they attached two L brackets to the base in such a way that the bottom leg of the L was on the floor.  They made the saw a bit more stabile but IMHO produced a tripping hazard.   Maybe, instead of two angle braces, a bandsaw needs to be attached on the bottom  to a half inch thick square sheet of steel which is four feet on a side.   Of course, the edges should be beveled.      Your experience may just change how band saws are designed.  Congratulations.     

Hope the rest of your year is less eventful.  Have fun.

Mel

Measure your output in smiles per board foot. 

WillGeorge's picture

Mel..   Sorry to see that (post #156056, reply #18 of 27)

Mel..

Sorry to see that your bandsaw knocked over your nice log.  Was there any real damage to the log?  

That statement gave me my belly laugh for the day.. Keep it up...

I have tipped my drill press onto the floor to drill very long things.. I think I posted it?

Have a great day.. Life is wonderful even if you are having a bad day!

9619's picture

WG, As you know,  Life is (post #156056, reply #17 of 27)

WG,

As you know,  Life is life.   

It is how you look at life that makes the difference.     

Mel

Measure your output in smiles per board foot. 

WillGeorge's picture

I added 'I have tipped my (post #156056, reply #20 of 27)

I added

'I have tipped my drill press onto the floor to drill very long things.. I think I posted it?'

after you sent your reply?

 As you know,  Life is life.   

It is how you look at life that makes the difference..

I see that some in here get upset with you for some reason....I think you say things that are brilliant!   

And am now watching a BBS Nova? thing about making a very old Japanese sword.. while typing these words...

Not a stupid man but I sure wish God gave me a brain that NASA could use...

I was told by a mother that her autistic child, told her in some way, that he liked my garage shop...

He loves to mess up my hair for some unknown reason... and he will say something about my shaven face after I shave it off..

He (and I) do strange things so I think we connect somehow....

The parents trust me and he is allowed to come into my shop/house.. He is a very special boy...

Not many men are creeps that will hurt a a boy or girl child. I love little children!

They can teach you many things that you never thought of!

Have a great day.. Life is wonderful even if you are having a bad day!

swenson's picture

Sand bag. (post #156056, reply #19 of 27)

When I put the riser block on my 14" Delta I must have thought it was too tippy 'cause there is a piece of plywood across the lower bracing of the stand with a sandbag on it.  I think it is a sandbag under all that dust.

Jammersix's picture

Counterweight (post #156056, reply #22 of 27)

You know, counterweights is how they balance cranes...

If you put JETs L-brackets off the BACK of the base, and loaded it up with sandbags, I think you'd have something!


"A few of us went down to Gettysburg. Some of us didn't come back.

If you weren't there, you'll never understand."-- Unknown Infantryman

Jammersix's picture

Starting (post #156056, reply #23 of 27)

I'm beginning to believe that thou doest protest too much.


"A few of us went down to Gettysburg. Some of us didn't come back.

If you weren't there, you'll never understand."-- Unknown Infantryman

Jammersix's picture

See Below (post #156056, reply #24 of 27)

Mel, I think you're on to something, but I think it should be a counterweight. My bandsaw is backed up to the furnace, so anything behind it would be protected from tripping.

And speaking of miracles of nature, all the logs I've cut so far are heavily spalted. :)

Two colors-- light blue and a thin, black line. I'm rich, I tell you, rich.


"A few of us went down to Gettysburg. Some of us didn't come back.

If you weren't there, you'll never understand."-- Unknown Infantryman

KeithNewton's picture

Something is missing,,,,,,,,,,,,, Oh I remember. (post #156056, reply #21 of 27)

Let's see, I seem to remember something about hauling lumber on a motorcycle, so I assume that you probably pulled that log home behind it.  Now, somehow, you should have tried to work the cycle into the ripping of the log as well. 

I like to pride myself as being a creative thinker, so maybe I can offer some suggestions. Initially, I was thinking that you could use the cycle as a power feeder, but you would probably end up with the same results as this, so lets think about turning the cycle into the saw. 

I think a motorcycle would make a fine bandsaw, except the seat gets in the way of the blade on top, unlessssssssss,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, you had a third idler wheel somewhere up high,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, like on top of your helmet. 

OK, this may rerquire the help of a friend. You will need two garbage cans,,,,,,,,,, I don't think I would use the one that got bent up in the last effort. You can suspend the motorcycle between two 2 x 4's resting on top to two overturned garbage cans. Then you or the buddy can sit straddle of the bike wearing the wheel-helmet, while the other feeds the log underneath on that same dolly.

Just remember,,,,,,,,,, Whomever is sitting astraddle of the cycle must look straight ahead. No looking around, because it would through the blade off. 

Be sure and wear a helmet with a full face shield, because there may be some danger of getting sawdust in your eyes. Otherwise, that is the only danger that I see. What do you think?

Jammersix's picture

Hard On Equipment (post #156056, reply #25 of 27)

You do have a point, hidden in your list-- dad said when I was around 15 that I was hard on equipment. I think the only thing that has changed has been the price tag of the equipment.

I didn't drag it home behind the motorcycle, I balanced it. I set one end on the passengers seat, balanced it straight up in the air like a flagpole, tied it down, and drove carefully. I was particularly careful not to stop too suddenly.

I didn't think of cutting it up with a motorcycle! You're brilliant!

I'll replace the rear wheel with a blade!

And here's the beauty of it! I won't feed the LOG, I'll feed the CYCLE!

I'll attach a drum to an extension of the rear axle, wrap a rope around it so it's a winch, then tie the rope off to the bandsaw!

I'll put a 2x4 up on one end of the log as a ramp, then I'll set the cycle on it, climb on, and RIDE TO VICTORY!


"A few of us went down to Gettysburg. Some of us didn't come back.

If you weren't there, you'll never understand."-- Unknown Infantryman

Jammersix's picture

We Have Arrived (post #156056, reply #26 of 27)

We came. We saw. We tipped over.


"A few of us went down to Gettysburg. Some of us didn't come back.

If you weren't there, you'll never understand."-- Unknown Infantryman

James R.'s picture

What the hey! (post #156056, reply #27 of 27)

Jammer:

I haven't been to knots for a few days.  I knew you had that great log, but, holy smokes, I had no idea you were using it to rearrange your shop.  That must have been some noise.  Thank goodness you weren't in the shop or you might have tried to catch it.   

Make good use of it.

Jim

My memory's good, it's just short.