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Connecticut auction help?

Connecticut auction help? (post #148651)

foxrocks4life08 on Mon, 03/08/2010 - 17:08

General Discussion

Well at my school we have a jet and delta table saw both cabinet saw and both are going to be sold for between 200-500 both great shape and work fine and i was looking into buying either because it would be nice to own a saw like that rather then my Bosch 4100 which is in no way good enough for nice cabinet work. OK my problem is that i cant buy the saw directly from my school or teacher because they are state property and will be put up for auction. My dilemma is that i do know know how to find information about this auction all i know is that its a connecticut state auction and i would appreciate it if some one would give me advise on what auction this might be. Help me please? thank you.

You can rarely get a tool (post #148651, reply #1 of 6)

by JohnWW in reply to foxrocks4life08 [original] on Mon, 03/08/2010 - 18:13

You can rarely get a tool like that in an auction at a good price. There are almost always a few people in the audience who get "bidding fever" on mid sized power tools and push the price well beyond what is realistic. I have regularly seen the price on used tools in medicore condition bidded up to higher prices than you could buy the tool for new.

Another point to consider is that I have rarely seen any machine from a school shop that wasn't heavily abused and basically worthless.

The school should be able to tell you what branch of the state is running the auction, and that should lead you to that agency's web site which will get you information about the auction.

Be aware that most things sold at auction are expected to be removed immediately from the premises, so be prepared to disassemble and move several hundred pounds of cast iron before you bid.

John White Shop Manager for FWW Magazine, 1998 to 2007

well i under stand the (post #148651, reply #2 of 6)

by foxrocks4life08 in reply to foxrocks4life08 [original] on Mon, 03/08/2010 - 18:25

well i under stand the bidding part but the part where the saw is beat up is very far off im in the shop that uses the saws and my teacher stresses not abusing the saws we have 6 table saws at the moment and i was leaning toward the jet which i beleive is newer and tomorrow i was planning on asking my teacher weather i can talk to the person would would b incharge of the auction and buy it b4 so they would not have to go through all the trouble of moving it from my school to storage to the auction but i could only hope but even if the saws are beat up they are most likely beter then my job site saw.

The biggest problem with (post #148651, reply #3 of 6)

by SawdustSteve in reply to foxrocks4life08 [original] on Mon, 03/08/2010 - 22:48

The biggest problem with buying 'school shop' machinery is that it is usually has a THREE PHASE MOTOR. Basically, there are THREE 110 volt lines and a neutral or ground wire. And no, you can not plug it into thrtee different outlets. If the saw plugs into an outlet, CAREFULLY check to see if it has a 'standard' type of plug or if it has a FOUR PRONG plug. (or three fuses in the switch-box) If it has the four prong plug, it will cost you between $150 and &300 to buy a voltage converter so it can be used with household voltages. It is extremely rare to find three phase electric in most residential areas. Your other option is to buy a (smaller horsepower) 110 volt motor or a similar horsepower 220 volt, SINGLE PHASE motor, assuming you have access to a 220 volt line in your shop. Both of these options are also costly. Check with Jet or Delta to get a price on these new motors. Although you may have your heart set on either of these two units, go slowly. It could be a VERY expensive mistake if you have to start replacing motors.

SawdustSteve (Retired woodshop teacher) Long Island, NY (E of NYC),

This might be a starting (post #148651, reply #4 of 6)

by RalphBarker in reply to foxrocks4life08 [original] on Tue, 03/09/2010 - 10:32

This might be a starting point:

http://www.das.state.ct.us/surplus/no_au...

Thank you both and my shop is (post #148651, reply #5 of 6)

by foxrocks4life08 in reply to foxrocks4life08 [original] on Tue, 03/09/2010 - 13:12

Thank you both and my shop is not yet wired so i will proboly begeting 220 no matter what so i will be able to use any saw and i will have 110 in it to

Fox.... 220 volt and THREE (post #148651, reply #6 of 6)

by SawdustSteve in reply to foxrocks4life08 [original] on Thu, 03/11/2010 - 13:17

Fox.... 220 volt and THREE PHASE are two TOTALLY different things. As i said earlier, if it is 3 phase you will need a special converter to use it.

Basically, with 110 and 220 volt service, there is onlt one 60 cycle signal coming down the wire.

With three phase electric, the 60 cycle waves have a STAGGERED start, therefore, each 110 volt leg starts 120 degrees out of line with the next leg. With this system, by reversing the proper two legs, you can reverse the direction of the motor, something you can not do with standard 110 or 220 volt (single phase) wiring

SawdustSteve Long Island, NY (due south of Bridgeport)